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I have been dating my girlfriend for 8 months and I just met her mom for the first time this weekend. They planned a trip for this week and asked me to watch their dog from Sunday to Monday morning as I didn't have class on Monday for MLK day.

I was just poking around her childhood room as it was just me and the dog and in her bottom nightstand drawer, I found some lube and an open box of condoms. We haven't had sex here because of her mom being with us like the whole time as this is her first time back home since the summer break. (We saw her dad over winter break). Meaning, she couldn't have cheated on me which was my immediate fear. We weren't exclusive over the summer so it wouldn't be cheating, but I only slept with her since we started seeing each other and figured she would do the same. Or they could be from before we started dating, I don't know. The other thing is, this condoms are quite a bit bigger than the ones we use. I used to have some cuckold fantasies before I met her and have tried to push them down and not think about it, but it has been stuck on my mind since discovering them. It does kinda turn me on, but the feelings of insecurity are stronger and it is really messing with me.

We haven't really talked about our past partners like at all so I don't even know how to bring it up. I haven't been able to stop thinking about it, so I'd really appreciate any advice. She gets back to campus this weekend so I don't have much time to figure out what to say/ask. Sorry if this is a little all over the place.

Welcome to the forum HenryB12. You really can't say anything or have to tell you were going through her stuff. Secondly, does it matter? She fucked other guys before you met her. If she fucked someone after you started dating it didn't ruin her pussy or violate anything. Woo her and get her into a conversation about previous loves if she will. There is no hurry on this. Be patient. Make a decision on whether you like it and want to encourage it or not.

If you want a relationship, never admit you were snooping around and stop snooping on her. Never productive at all. If you like her, have fun with her. Don’t keep secrets and be game for anything… at least once. Cheers

armyguyot1 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:18 am

Welcome to the forum HenryB12. You really can't say anything or have to tell you were going through her stuff. Secondly, does it matter? She fucked other guys before you met her. If she fucked someone after you started dating it didn't ruin her pussy or violate anything. Woo her and get her into a conversation about previous loves if she will. There is no hurry on this. Be patient. Make a decision on whether you like it and want to encourage it or not.

How would I even start the conversation? What should I say? I've never really initiated a conversation about past partners before. This has been on my mind constantly for the last few days and I can't stop thinking about it.

Here's one option, just say something..... you have been dating for 8 months, people have met & married in less time.
You still haven't talked expressed sexual desires yet.... sheeeesh no wonder.....

Watchinu69 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:28 pm

Here's one option, just say something..... you have been dating for 8 months, people have met & married in less time.
You still haven't talked expressed sexual desires yet.... sheeeesh no wonder.....

It's not like we haven't talked about what positions or certain phrases while dirty talking we like. Partners and body count is something I didn't ask about cause I didn't want to know. And cuckolding is about 5 levels more extreme than that. I really need a smooth way to start and continue the conversation because I know myself and without a good plan, I will back out of it at the last second from nervousness/embarrassment.

Tell her who your first was and maybe how it happened and ask about hers. Don't push. If she doesn't want to talk about it she will at the right time. Maybe it was unplanned and just happened. Maybe prom. Depending on age the younger generation seems to be less inhibited about sex.

IMHO the longer down the road you don't have these type of conversions the harder they will become, for both of you, not saying you can't be successful after many years of marriage either- but expectations settle into roles as you both get accustomed to new relationships - I waited 3 months before bringing it up, not be text- in person.

This is an interesting development. How is the sex between you guys? Has she ever given any hints that you're too small for her or that she is used to a larger penis? I suspect its pretty exciting to imagine her having amazing sex with some well endowed guy from the summer. Hopefully he didnt set too high a bar for you. Or maybe that would be a good thing?

Ive actually had two related experiences. Once when I aslo found a Magnum condom (wrapper) in my girlfriends bedroom. Im not very well endowed and would never consider wearing a magnum condom.

Its a long story but this woman had cheated on me a couple (or more) times in the past (related in part related to her curiosity of being with a larger man - Im not very well endowed) and we had actually experimented with an 'open relationship' (at her insistence) for a while. But when I found this condom wrapper we were in a period of 'reconciliation' where we were trying to be monogamous. Or apparently I was. She claimed it was old but given what a clean freak she was it was highly unlikely it was more than a week or two old. Nothing really came of this as she had cheated in the past but it was another straw pushing me to realize that this relationship was only going to end in heartache. But it later also gave me lots of fodder for my cuckold fantasies.

The other experience was a bit different and occurred in university with a less serious girlfriend. The long and short of it is that th first time we [tried to] make love I was extremely intoxicated on cheap university beer and pretty nervous (she was just the second woman I had ever been with) and i was only able to get about 85% of a proper erection. We tried to make love with some but less than full success and she ultimately stopped and got off (she was on top), looked down with dissatisfaction and was able to pull the condom right off my penis. She pulled pretty hard but I do admit that the condom came off too easily. But it didnt slip or fall off or anything. The result was that she refused to continue. She was a very direct woman and said straight out that the condom was too big for me. I was mortified and humiliated but I now also find this very arousing.

The next morning while I was still asleep she arranged for me to assist her roommate (an very cute Asian woman) on some errands she had including, I found out on route, stopping in the Asian pharmacy her Aunt ran to pick up imported condoms. I wasnt told of this and only figured out what was going on when standing in the store. She had a conversation with her Aunt in Chinese who expressed some surprise and then went away and returned with some Chinese condoms. I was mortified but luckily the roommate didn't say anything further about it.

Afterward my girlfriend was always refuse to have sex with me without one of these condoms, which for all intents and purposes were practically the same size of the regular condoms. I realize Im small but normal size condoms are very adaptable. Ive never had a problem since with a condom slipping off although this may have caused some anxiety with a partner or two of mine? This too has given lots to think about to fuel my cuckold fantasies. I just have to think about my girlfriend telling her roommates about our failed efforts in bed and that my penis was too small for a normal sized condom to become aroused. This relationship lasted a little while but it was over by summer.

You need to open up and ask her about former lovers and how you compare, admit to her the thought of her having bigger excites you

armyguyot1 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:38 pm

Tell her who your first was and maybe how it happened and ask about hers. Don't push. If she doesn't want to talk about it she will at the right time. Maybe it was unplanned and just happened. Maybe prom. Depending on age the younger generation seems to be less inhibited about sex.

Thanks for the advice. Be patient, share my stuff first to hopefully open her up, and don't push. And we are both 21 years old, so part of the younger generation you mentioned.

Watchinu69 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:21 am

IMHO the longer down the road you don't have these type of conversions the harder they will become, for both of you, not saying you can't be successful after many years of marriage either- but expectations settle into roles as you both get accustomed to new relationships - I waited 3 months before bringing it up, not be text- in person.

Dang, 3 months is pretty fast but if you're confident about it, that probably helps. And yeah, definitely going to have this conversation in person when she gets back. I'm thinking about after the next time we have sex to already be in that mood. I'm really hoping to not get embarrassed and keep both of us comfortable during the talk. I appreciate your input. If either of you two (or anyone else) has any more advice, I'm all ears.

I teach and have seen girls passed from boy to boy and there is no stigma like there was in the old days. Seems the younger crowd just enjoys sex for what it is and is not inhibited by religious or made up family stories like the old days. Maybe the more openness of people in general. Also whether sex has a stigma varies with location. Europe being much more open than the US and some South American countries are much more open.

Gmor wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:42 am

This is an interesting development. How is the sex between you guys? Has she ever given any hints that you're too small for her or that she is used to a larger penis? I suspect its pretty exciting to imagine her having amazing sex with some well endowed guy from the summer. Hopefully he didnt set too high a bar for you. Or maybe that would be a good thing?

Ive actually had two related experiences. Once when I aslo found a Magnum condom (wrapper) in my girlfriends bedroom. Im not very well endowed and would never consider wearing a magnum condom.

Its a long story but this woman had cheated on me a couple (or more) times in the past (related in part related to her curiosity of being with a larger man - Im not very well endowed) and we had actually experimented with an 'open relationship' (at her insistence) for a while. But when I found this condom wrapper we were in a period of 'reconciliation' where we were trying to be monogamous. Or apparently I was. She claimed it was old but given what a clean freak she was it was highly unlikely it was more than a week or two old. Nothing really came of this as she had cheated in the past but it was another straw pushing me to realize that this relationship was only going to end in heartache. But it later also gave me lots of fodder for my cuckold fantasies.

The other experience was a bit different and occurred in university with a less serious girlfriend. The long and short of it is that th first time we [tried to] make love I was extremely intoxicated on cheap university beer and pretty nervous (she was just the second woman I had ever been with) and i was only able to get about 85% of a proper erection. We tried to make love with some but less than full success and she ultimately stopped and got off (she was on top), looked down with dissatisfaction and was able to pull the condom right off my penis. She pulled pretty hard but I do admit that the condom came off too easily. But it didnt slip or fall off or anything. The result was that she refused to continue. She was a very direct woman and said straight out that the condom was too big for me. I was mortified and humiliated but I now also find this very arousing.

The next morning while I was still asleep she arranged for me to assist her roommate (an very cute Asian woman) on some errands she had including, I found out on route, stopping in the Asian pharmacy her Aunt ran to pick up imported condoms. I wasnt told of this and only figured out what was going on when standing in the store. She had a conversation with her Aunt in Chinese who expressed some surprise and then went away and returned with some Chinese condoms. I was mortified but luckily the roommate didn't say anything further about it.

Afterward my girlfriend was always refuse to have sex with me without one of these condoms, which for all intents and purposes were practically the same size of the regular condoms. I realize Im small but normal size condoms are very adaptable. Ive never had a problem since with a condom slipping off although this may have caused some anxiety with a partner or two of mine? This too has given lots to think about to fuel my cuckold fantasies. I just have to think about my girlfriend telling her roommates about our failed efforts in bed and that my penis was too small for a normal sized condom to become aroused. This relationship lasted a little while but it was over by summer.

The sex between has been pretty good between us so far. We probably have it like 3-4 times a week, which I think is quite a bit. We mix up positions, places, etc. I'm pretty sure she hasn't given any hints to me being to small or being used to a bigger penis. She isn't going to come out and say "Your penis is too small, I need more," cause that's gotta be like taboo number 1 that girls are told not to say to their partners. I guess some things that could be considered hints (let me know if you think so), is that she is really good at deepthroating me right away while fully hard, and sometimes she will almost instinctively try and blow me while using two hands but realizes there isn't enough length to do that. It sometimes slips out during sex, but that probably happens to everyone every once and a while. It is pretty exciting to think about her with a larger dude than me, but after I masturbate, I feel bad about myself. I still find it really arousing but feel a lot of shame afterwards.

Your last point about him setting the bar too high being a bad or good thing is the main thing that turns me on but also really messes with my head. I want to be the best but her being with someone better is super hot.

Both of your experiences are really hot. The normal, almost sph moments, especially in situation 2, are a big turn on for me, but after I get out of "hypothetical land", I feel like she would think less of me and not as one of her best partners. How did you feel about her roommate knowing? I wouldn't be able to be around her friend without feeling extremely embarrassed. Also, I would have trouble getting back into a relationship for a while if situation 1 happened directly to me, but from the outside, it is arousing.

Wantsomefunto wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:33 pm

You need to open up and ask her about former lovers and how you compare, admit to her the thought of her having bigger excites you

That's what I'm planning on doing but I can't just straight up ask how I compare or tell her these thoughts turn me on, right? There's a good chance I'll come off a really insecure and the other guys aspect is kind of out there. I'm really nervous about how she'll respond, and how she'll think about me after. Thanks for the help btw.

Update: Girlfriend is getting back tomorrow around 8:30 pm. Gonna watch the NFL conference championship games and do homework tomorrow and try to distract myself until then. She's been texting me that she misses me so we're probably gonna sleep together tomorrow night and then I'll initiate the convo. Wish me luck.

BTW, what is the difference between the "post a reply" and "quick reply"?

HenryB12 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:55 pm

Watchinu69 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:28 pm

Here's one option, just say something..... you have been dating for 8 months, people have met & married in less time.
You still haven't talked expressed sexual desires yet.... sheeeesh no wonder.....

It's not like we haven't talked about what positions or certain phrases while dirty talking we like. Partners and body count is something I didn't ask about cause I didn't want to know. And cuckolding is about 5 levels more extreme than that. I really need a smooth way to start and continue the conversation because I know myself and without a good plan, I will back out of it at the last second from nervousness/embarrassment.

Why not hint around that it's a bit of a turn on for you to know she's been with other men? You can introduce this when you two are leading up to sex, maybe getting a little hot and ready... just tell her you sometimes jerk off imagining her fooling around with other men... were you with a lot of men before you- it kind of makes you hot- use your own words of course....... the reason I suggest this tactic is because I used it myself! It really did the trick for me. In a short while it was part of our playtime and, eventually, it lead to her fucking other men as a hotwife.

It will be fine to say to her you are curious about guys she was with before you and some of the details about the sex

I really feel for you. I had a similar circumstance. I was having trouble getting erect and she started to blow me. It did arouse me and I came in her mouth. Anyway, when I was finished, she said she enjoyed pleasing me and said she liked that it did not strain he mouth. Gulp! I guessed what that meant but I did not want to explore it any further but it never left my mind.

We had sex a couple of times and I told her that my finger was feeling something hanging loosely. It must have been left over from her broken hymen. She appeared worried by that remark and then said maybe he ripped me. I said I did not know if that was it. She then said every time they had sex it always hurt a lot and maybe it was because he was very big. Gulp! I could not stand it any longer so I asked her how big. She said he was longer than me but his was very very thick. I asked how thick. She them motioned with her hand and finger and said he was like this – she made a motion with her fingers and said she could not get her fingers around his cock. Double gulped!!!

The moral of this story is that this type of info must always inevitably come out.

Everything went to plan leading up to the meeting. I did some homework and watched the playoff games with some buddies to occupy myself until she got back. She texts me at 8:15 that she was 15 minutes away so a friend drives me over and drops me off. I get there a little early and the nerves start coming back but I'm able to calm myself down.

When she arrives and gets out of her car, she looks amazing. She always looks good, but I've been thinking about this all week so I'm ready to go and head straight to her bedroom. I open the front door for her and we immediately start kissing and grabbing all over each other. After probably 30 seconds, she pulls away and says, "Wow babe, I missed you too. Let me get my stuff inside and I'll tell you about my trip." I tell her we can do that later and she starts teasing me by rubbing me through my pants and says, "somebody really missed me huh?" She keeps teasing me and says she wants to unpack and talk about her trip first, knowing that I'm rock hard. So we bring her stuff inside and talk about her entire trip. She and her mom had a lot of fun and she told my girlfriend that she liked me a lot. Finally, after what feels like forever, we walk to her bedroom.

We start taking our clothes off in between making out with each other and once we are both completely naked on her bed, she starts pushing my head to her pussy. I eat her out for a while as she is moaning, telling me how she missed this. I keep going until she cums. After 30 seconds, I come up to start kissing her again as I slide in her. I'm only thinking about her being with another dude and she starts moaning, so I know this isn't gonna last long. I only last about 2 minutes as I'm overwhelmed by my fantasies and her noises. "Wow, you really did miss me," she exclaims as I lay down on top of her. A couple minutes pass and I know this is the time to start the convo.

"While you were gone, I don't know why, but I was thinking about how we haven't really talked about our pasts and stuff and I think we should learn more about what we've done and what we like." (Tried my best to not be awkward but most likely still was) "Ummm, ok what specifically?, she responds. "Let's start with virginity stories. I can go first if you'd like." She nods so I tell her about my first time with my ex-girlfriend back in high school. She asks a couple questions during and after I finish I tell her it's her turn. She tells me it was with her second boyfriend, also in high school, and how it sort of scarred her for a while. She says it was pretty bloody and her and her boyfriend had to hurry and change his sheets before his parents got home. Also, that he was very comforting while also being spooked as it was his first time as well. "Anything else?" she asks me. "What about your number? How many people have you been with?" "Really, um... ok." "How about we say it at the same time?" She nods and after a countdown from 3, we say 5 for me and 11 for her. "Only 5, I thought it would've been more than that," she says. "Nope, just 5, a little more for you though" "11 isn't a lot, Kate (her bestfriend) has way more," "You're right, 11 isn't a lot, only a little more than me. Does she really?" There is sort of an awkward silence and she asks, "Anything else?" "What about the porn you like to watch?" She looks a little embarrassed and asks "Are you sure? It's kinda weird." I say yes and informs me that she hasn't watched porn in years but used to only watch lesbian porn. I tell her that I think it's pretty normal for women to watch lesbian porn even if they're straight. She says "No, I just felt weird watching, IDK, I don't watch it anymore." "What about fantasies? Got any you want to share?" "No, I don't really have any fantasies." The mood was feeling really awkward so I waited for her to continue or ask me. After 15 seconds, she says "I'm hungry, can we some food?" pretty much ending the convo there.

I decided not to push as I think she wanted out of the conversation, feeling a little weird. Dropping the "cuckold and wanting to see her with another dude" bombs would probably be too much, as the vibes were feeling very awkward. We talked about a lot of new things so that is really good progress, but didn't go all the way to where I'd hoped. She's gonna be pretty busy for a couple days, catching up with the school work she missed because of her vacation. Next time after sex, I'm gonna try my best to open up and tell her about my fantasies. Didn't/don't want to be too pushy. Again, thanks for the help. I'll try to update asap, I'm busy with school and she's extra busy for the time being. Any questions or other helpful tips for navigating this are welcome.

Tryagain wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:20 am

I really feel for you. I had a similar circumstance. I was having trouble getting erect and she started to blow me. It did arouse me and I came in her mouth. Anyway, when I was finished, she said she enjoyed pleasing me and said she liked that it did not strain he mouth. Gulp! I guessed what that meant but I did not want to explore it any further but it never left my mind.

We had sex a couple of times and I told her that my finger was feeling something hanging loosely. It must have been left over from her broken hymen. She appeared worried by that remark and then said maybe he ripped me. I said I did not know if that was it. She then said every time they had sex it always hurt a lot and maybe it was because he was very big. Gulp! I could not stand it any longer so I asked her how big. She said he was longer than me but his was very very thick. I asked how thick. She them motioned with her hand and finger and said he was like this – she made a motion with her fingers and said she could not get her fingers around his cock. Double gulped!!!

The moral of this story is that this type of info must always inevitably come out.

Women who love their husbands will often minimize the importance of dick-size to avoid hurting their hubby.... but ACTIONS speak louder than words- at least, in my experience. When my wife and I went to a sex club we met a man who expressed the desire to have sex with my wife. Naturally, I made it clear he had my total approval if she was also game. To cut to the chase he managed to stuff his manhood into my wife's married hole. Afterward she told me that she "felt sorry" for his woman because he was so big she could close her fingers around it! But then I made an observation. Over the next few visits, my wife spread her legs to him for a very good and complete FUCK! In fact, he fucked her 3 times- more times than ANY single man had screwed her in that club setting.

That tells me that for some (but maybe not all) women) cock size definitely DOES matter! Speaking of my experience alone, BOTH with my current wife and my ex-wife, the way their bodies reacted when having sex with me and with a full-size, well-endowed man or working my ex with a large dildo and fisting her to orgasm... there can be no doubt that dick size does make a difference! I'm not saying a tiny dicked man like me can't make a woman cum (although I have rarely made ANY woman cum) but he can't do it with his cock.

Maybe hold off on you wanting her with other guys. You don’t want to freak her out. But maybe talk about what you did with past partners. Possibly like positions, oral, etc. Maybe discuss anal too.

That could open up something about what past partners’ physicality was like. Maybe how tall her exes were, etc. Did you have any gf’s with big tits. Stuff like that. Maybe that could open the door to talk to her about cock size. That’s what you want to know since you found the large condoms.

Btw, were they Magnums or Magnum XL?

TinyBoyDick wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:48 pm

Tryagain wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:20 am

I really feel for you. I had a similar circumstance. I was having trouble getting erect and she started to blow me. It did arouse me and I came in her mouth. Anyway, when I was finished, she said she enjoyed pleasing me and said she liked that it did not strain he mouth. Gulp! I guessed what that meant but I did not want to explore it any further but it never left my mind.

We had sex a couple of times and I told her that my finger was feeling something hanging loosely. It must have been left over from her broken hymen. She appeared worried by that remark and then said maybe he ripped me. I said I did not know if that was it. She then said every time they had sex it always hurt a lot and maybe it was because he was very big. Gulp! I could not stand it any longer so I asked her how big. She said he was longer than me but his was very very thick. I asked how thick. She them motioned with her hand and finger and said he was like this – she made a motion with her fingers and said she could not get her fingers around his cock. Double gulped!!!

The moral of this story is that this type of info must always inevitably come out.

Women who love their husbands will often minimize the importance of dick-size to avoid hurting their hubby.... but ACTIONS speak louder than words- at least, in my experience. When my wife and I went to a sex club we met a man who expressed the desire to have sex with my wife. Naturally, I made it clear he had my total approval if she was also game. To cut to the chase he managed to stuff his manhood into my wife's married hole. Afterward she told me that she "felt sorry" for his woman because he was so big she could close her fingers around it! But then I made an observation. Over the next few visits, my wife spread her legs to him for a very good and complete FUCK! In fact, he fucked her 3 times- more times than ANY single man had screwed her in that club setting.

That tells me that for some (but maybe not all) women) cock size definitely DOES matter! Speaking of my experience alone, BOTH with my current wife and my ex-wife, the way their bodies reacted when having sex with me and with a full-size, well-endowed man or working my ex with a large dildo and fisting her to orgasm... there can be no doubt that dick size does make a difference! I'm not saying a tiny dicked man like me can't make a woman cum (although I have rarely made ANY woman cum) but he can't do it with his cock.

I mean that's a major part of the fantasy, at least for me. Wondering if I'm actually big enough for her or if she is just being nice. Of course, I want to think that I'm one of her best partners but all of the comments about size growing up and in the media is what causes the shame/jealously, which formed my fantasy. It's one of the things I'm afraid of; that she will think less of me after going through with it, if we actually get that far.

joel68 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:23 pm

Maybe hold off on you wanting her with other guys. You don’t want to freak her out. But maybe talk about what you did with past partners. Possibly like positions, oral, etc. Maybe discuss anal too.

That could open up something about what past partners’ physicality was like. Maybe how tall her exes were, etc. Did you have any gf’s with big tits. Stuff like that. Maybe that could open the door to talk to her about cock size. That’s what you want to know since you found the large condoms.

Btw, were they Magnums or Magnum XL?

Yeah, we're on the same page. Freaking her out/coming on too strong is very likely to set me back. Good idea with asking about other parts of her past partners' body. Seems like a good way to transition into the size questions, almost like it's just another random detail.

The condoms were from a brand I'd never heard of before. The brand is TITAN condoms, specifically the extra large on (TITAN XL). It was super humiliating to scour the internet to look for these condoms. Their measurements say recommended girth is 5.5-5.8 inches, which is huge. Even now, I get turned on just thinking about it.

Update: We are getting lunch today in a little over an hour. We've been texting since Sunday night but no mention of the conversation. I'm gonna try to bring it up but don't know how from I'll get as she probably won't want to discuss it in public.

About how old are you guys?

And can you describe her? Like ht., wt., hair & eye color?

joel68 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:49 am

About how old are you guys?

And can you describe her? Like ht., wt., hair & eye color?

We are both 21 years old.
She is 5'5" or 5'6", not sure about weight but she is slim-thick (played softball in high school) so she has a bigger butt, brunette, and has brown eyes.
I'm 5'11" 135lbs (skinny), brown hair, and brown eyes.

Update: She invited two friends to lunch, so no sexual talk at all. Just more about her trip and I was kinda the fourth wheel. We made plans to hang out at her place tomorrow so I will bring up the conversation then. I'm hoping to open us both up to talk about our fantasies. I'm not sure I fully believe her about having zero fantasies (is that even possible). Maybe it's true or she just felt too embarrassed to share right then. It's been hard to focus in class as it's been occupying my thoughts. Anyways, wish me luck.